Ep5 (full episode) -- Bleeding Gums, and HOCL -- Dental Revolution: Biohacking the Mouth/Body Connection SEASON1
In this episode, we follow Usha, a 35-year-old CPA, who has been proactively researching oral health and proper tongue posture. Her journey led her to Dr. Goodman, who recommended trying an HOCl (Hypochlorous Acid) swish protocol to combat oral inflammation, bleeding gums, and recurring canker sores.
Through real-time clinical testing, this video demonstrates the remarkable efficacy of HOCl in reducing oral inflammation and transforming gum health in just one week. Usha also shares an unexpected secondary benefit—how the protocol drastically shortened the duration of a common cold!
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K E Y T A K E A W A Y S & P R O T O C O L
THE INITIAL VISIT & DIAGNOSIS
THE PERIOMONITOR TEST
Dr. Goodman starts by administering a Perio Monitor test to measure Usha's leukocyte (white blood cell) activity, which directly indicates the level of inflammation or active infection in the mouth.
THE BASELINE RESULTS
Usha's initial test quickly changes color, landing between moderate and high inflammation.
USHA’S SYMPTOMS
Usha reveals she has been dealing with dry mouth, bleeding gums since her 20s (especially while flossing), and painful canker sores when eating acidic foods.
THE ADVANCED HOCL PROTOCOL
Dr. Goodman explains that simply swishing is not enough for deep oral issues. If a patient has deep periodontal pockets (e.g., 8–10 mm), a standard swish only reaches about 3 mm, leaving harmful anaerobic bacteria untouched at the base. To maximize contact time, she puts Usha on an aggressive protocol:
DIP & PAINT
Dipping the toothbrush directly into the HOCl solution and painting the teeth and gums to keep it on the surface longer.
INTERDENTAL CLEANING
Using HOCl on soft picks or proxy brushes to push the solution deeply between the teeth.
WATER IRRIGATORS
Adding HOCl to a water flosser/irrigator to flush out deep pockets.
AVOIDING TOOTHPASTE
Pausing standard toothpaste during the treatment phase, as it can potentially interfere with the biofilm-disrupting capabilities of HOCl.
THE 1-WEEK FOLLOW-UP RESULTS
MASSIVE DROP IN INFLAMMATION
After just seven days on the protocol, Usha repeats the Perio Monitor test. The results show a massive improvement, landing squarely between negative and low inflammation.
VISIBLE GUM TRANSFORMATION
Dr. Goodman notes a complete transformation—Usha’s gums appear healthy, pink, and firm, with zero bleeding reported during brushing or flossing.
THE "WAR" ANALOGY
Dr. Goodman explains that treating severe oral issues is like a war; you must aggressively step up the protocol initially to eliminate bad bacteria so that the good microbes can successfully take back control.
UNEXPECTED IMMUNE BENEFIT
KNOCKING OUT COLDS
Usha notes that during the pandemic, she frequently caught colds that would drag on for 1 to 2 weeks. While on the HOCl protocol, she felt a cold coming on and decided to gargle with the solution morning and night. Incredibly, her cold symptoms lasted only 3 to 4 days, which she credits directly to the antimicrobial properties of the HOCl gargle.
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Transcript
My name is Usha. I am 35 years old. I'm a CPA. Like I've been doing a lot of research when it comes to oral health, proper tongue posture, and um things like that. And so that kind of research led me to Dr. Goodman. And so when I saw her, she suggested to me that I try the HOCL swish.
Happy birthday to you today. you. This morning we're going to do a couple tests. Okay. And it's going to be a birthday present for me. to yourself, right? And I think it's one of the best birthday presents you could do for yourself. We're going to start with the Perio Monitor test. The Perio Monitor test tells you how much inflammation is in your mouth. Okay. Right? It measures leucocyte activity. So leucocytes are given off when you have inflammation or an infection or something bothering your mouth.
Okay. So what we do is I want you to take this and swish it in your mouth for 30 seconds. And kind of count the 30 seconds. So I take the whole thing? You squeeze it just squeeze it right into your mouth. It's water. Okay. It probably tastes like water. Thank you. Here's your little spitty cup. So, this isn't telling us which bacteria are causing it or if it's bacteria that's causing it. Mhm. Okay. Okay, so I'm going to dip the dipstick into the saliva. Oh, is it like immediate?
Yeah. Well, actually it's within a minute. And then we have to wait. Mhm. So, right away I can see some pinkness happening. [clears throat] Mhm. Right? But we're going to wait for that to develop. To see how pink it gets? Yeah. Oh. Just from experience, it doesn't often get pink this fast. That's not great. It's between moderate and high. yeah.
What's your chief complaint? What's bothering your mouth? Uh last year I was dealing with a bit of dry mouth, and then also when I ate really acidic foods, I would get canker sores, which I haven't actually dealt with before that. Um and then also like my bleeding gums as well. And how long have your gums been bleeding? Mhm.
Honestly, since I was I can remember it from at least when I was like an adult, like my 20s. Is it when you brush and floss, or is it just on its own? Uh only when I sometimes brush, mostly when I floss. So, this is the protocol that I want you to start. Okay. And then I want to see you after a week of doing the protocol and uh see what the results are. Okay. Um the point of this is we want to prevent your ulcers from coming back, and we want to see if the bleeding will settle down. Mhm.
Uh so, if you take about a cupful of this morning and night and swish, that's my standard everyday thing, but I want you in the beginning to be going crazy with it. Like swish for a long time? Not to swish for a long time. I want you to take your toothbrush head, Mhm. or maybe take a cup of this. I'm going to give you a larger bottle. Okay. Take quite a bit of it. And dip your toothbrush head in it. And paint your teeth. Okay.
The point is this is about contact time. Mhm. It's a very benign product. Mhm. But if it's not on your teeth, it's not helping you. If it's not in your mouth, it's not helping you. Once you spit it out, it's out. I see. I see. Okay. So, I want it on your teeth as long as possible. Okay. So, I want you to actually take a toothbrush and brush your teeth. Have it coating your teeth.
And let it flow into the crevices and the grooves in between your teeth. In fact, you can do that and then floss to move it around, right? Or take one of those little proxy brushes. Dip it in there and go between your teeth. That would be amazing. Okay. There's just so many ways to get this on your teeth better than just swishing.
Okay. When you just swish, if you have a periodontal pocket, and I don't think you do. Mhm. But if you did, and if it was like 8 or 10 mm deep, the swish would only go down 3 mm. Mhm. And the really bad guys that are anaerobes, they don't need oxygen, right at the base of the pocket. Okay. So, to get there, you can use a water irrigator.
Do you know what that is? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you can actually put this into the water irrigator. Oh, I'm going to get it really in there. Yeah, that's amazing. Okay. Who's that? Um, today we're going to redo the perio monitor test. But we're going to brush with the water. You need to swish for 30 seconds. Mhm. I'm going to give you this cup. I'll take that from you.
Okay. Okay, let's dip. So, we're looking for pink and purple. You want to hold that for me? Okay. Thank you. Last time it turned pink like almost instantly. Now it's taking a little bit of time. Yeah, it is. We're low. We're not negative, but we're low. Yeah. And it's last We're not We're definitely closer to negative than we are to moderate. Yes. Right? We're right between negative and low. Whereas we were moderate to high to start with. Mhm. Which is huge because this tells you how much inflammation you have in your mouth. Mhm. So, I just want to look at your gums. Right? Yeah, it's a whole different story.
That's exactly what we want. We want nice pink gums with no bleeding when you brush or floss or anything. No pink in the sink. No. Are you using toothpaste? Uh no. Not this week I didn't use toothpaste, but should I add it in? No. Leave it out? Yeah. Okay. I have a feeling the toothpaste can have an effect on the HOCL. Okay. Okay. Right? So, I'm asking people to Not use it. avoid it completely for now. Okay. Is there anything else that you're using that can affect it? No, no. It's only toothpaste. Yeah. Yeah.
So, we want the HOCL to go through the biofilm. It explodes the biofilm Okay. to get to the deep bacteria. Okay. Right? And we want to get the HOCL deep into the pockets into the gums. Which is why I'm getting you to put it on your brush and brush your teeth and to also put it that it would be great if you can put it on those soft picks. I have been. I've been putting on the soft picks and then I also use the syringe. So, I do brush my teeth first, then I go with the syringe and then I do
You didn't even get such an amazing result. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm hoping that once you get there, you can just do it a little bit more and then change back to a different routine that doesn't drive you crazy. Fair. It does take a while, but Yeah, but I think we have to . It's a war there, right? So, we have to step up. Yeah. in the beginning to get things under control.
And then once your good bugs can control things, we just have to help it a little bit. A little bit. Okay. Okay, yeah. I'm good with that. There was one point during the pandemic where I was getting colds almost every 3 to 4 months, and they would last about a week to 2 weeks before I got better.
Um but this time around I was I noticed I was getting a cold and I started and it was just about 2 weeks, 3 weeks into me using this which product, and I decided to uh to gargle with it as well on top of like brushing my teeth uh my teeth and my gums with it. I was uh so I chose to gargle and I gargled it um once in the morning, once in the night, uh and whenever I kind of felt like I wanted it. Um and surprisingly my cold only lasted about 3 to 4 days. And so, I'm thinking that part of the reason why it was such a short cold was because of the product.